[110] However, the rats of Lewes had presents of their own, and in May, plague had broken out in the town. Hamilton, vol. More than likely, this was his first time on board a ship and away from the English mainland.

Their extent was considerable. Gregory and Elizabeth took part in the funeral procession of Queen Jane Seymour, Richard Cromwell carried the banners. He is now studying the things most conducive to the reading of authors, and spends the rest of the day in forming letters." This is such fun as art historical detective work! He lived through the last turbulent years of Henry VIII's reign, saw his queens and courtiers come and go, he survived the execution of his father, witnessed epidemics of plague and sweating sickness take away his friends and relations and lived through much political, social and religious upheaval. Therefore, he was condemned without a trial and his sentence was later confirmed by an act of attainder. Moreover, Gregory Cromwell was not created Baron Cromwell of Oakham by letters patent until December 1540 and did not receive any royal grants before February 1541.
[73] It is evident that Cromwell's son was a capable scholar, who besides mastering Latin, French and accounting, had learned to play the lute and virginals and excelled in the outdoor pursuits of riding, hunting with the longbow and hawking. Journal of the House of Lords 1: 1509–1577, p. 149 29 June 1540. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 15, 940. Gregory's close friends, [27][28], After the deaths of his wife and daughters, Thomas Cromwell was devoted to his son, Gregory, and his sister Catherine's son, [33] Richard must have been fond of Gregory, leaving him "a great horse" in his will. Catherine Howard’s mother was Joyce Culpepper.

209–212 see Lady Berkeley's letter to Thomas Cromwell after the death of her husband, Thomas Berkeley, 6th Baron Berkeley. Marella.

Little Gregory is becoming great in letters. That the portrait could be Elizabeth Seymour, was first argued by Antonia Fraser. I, (new series XI), 1875, p. 95-97, Holinshed’s Chronicles of England, Scotland and Ireland, 1808, vol. Excuse me for asking, but are you also the author of the wikipedia article on Gregory? Elaborate feasts and suppers were provided there, which were attended by the King, the Queen and her ladies, all the court, and all other comers. I also see that although some of her letters to Thomas Cromwell can be dated, the letter from Margaret Vernon which mentions Gregory is apparently undated, and that she was Prioress of Little Marlow from at least 1521.
Following Henry's death, he was knighted during the reign of Edward VI. Elizabeth was the sister of a queen, and a lord protector, and two of her brothers were executed as traitors, but what else do we know about Elizabeth Seymour and how is she linked to the Cromwell family and a portrait once thought to be of Queen Catherine Howard? True for the Crown, which is unique, and indeed Edward VI was flexing his will at sixteen, with his Device for the Succession (Lady Jane Grey). Reproduction Date: Gregory Cromwell, 1st Baron Cromwell of Oakham, [5][6], Gregory's father Thomas Cromwell rose from obscurity to become the chief minister of Henry VIII, who attempted to modernize government at the expense of the privileges of the nobility and church.

The reade... ...£ 1:5:2, the lowest price at which it had ever been from 1595. Both the Howards and the Seymours appear to have had similar noses so I think little if nothing can turn on that. A successful merchant and lawyer, Thomas Cromwell was a self-made man of relatively humble beginnings whose intelligence and abilities enabled him to rise to become the most powerful man in England next to the king. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 14(2), 782: Cromwell's accounts note a payment of £12 14s. I, p. 145, 301, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol. [64][65] Gregory and his cousin, Christopher Wellyfed were permitted to indulge their love of hunting during breaks in their studies. The challengers entered the lists that day richly dressed, their horses trapped in white velvet, with knights and gentlemen riding ahead of them, dressed in white velvet and white sarcenet, and all their servants in white sarcenet doublets and hose, in the Burgundian fashion. [180] In this way it escaped forfeiture at the time of Thomas Cromwell's attainder and execution, and was held by his descendants.[203]. Thomas was Gregory’s friend and neighbour when he lived at nearby Lewes Priory and when he first came to live in Sussex, both Lord and Lady Dacre, as he says in a letter to his father, “welcomed him to the county and entertained him with presents.” I also see that Thomas named one of his sons Gregory and so Gregory Cromwell was presumably the godfather. Hough was Cromwell's agent in Chester.

The case against Thomas Cromwell was weak - it was well known that Cromwell favoured religious reform, though he had not proceeded any further with his program of reforms than the king would allow, and his every act had been authorised by the king.

[170] Moreover, Thomas Cromwell was granted the extraordinary 'privilege' of being told of the charges against him and who his accusers were. So the argument as to his date of birth based on the letters is it seems circular!

The challengers included Sir Anthony Kingston, and Richard Cromwell. I also see that my ancestor Thomas Drake (brother of Admiral Sir Francis) married an Elizabeth Gregory.

Gregory lost royal favor and a significant amount of property when his father was executed, but was later ennobled by King Henry as Baron of Oakham, made a member of Parliament, and managed to establish himself as a wealthy landowner. Elizabeth Seymour, Lady Cromwell, Portrait by Hans Holbein the Younger – once thought to be Catherine Howard. Since the portrait was always traditionally believed to be Catherine I think a much better case needs to be made out for identifying it as Elizabeth than the fact it once belonged to the Cromwell family. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 13(1), 1059.

She was around fifty years old at her death. "[197] It appears that Henry VIII no longer considered Thomas Cromwell to have been guilty of the charges against him, that he had been misled by his councillors and now regretted the loss of an able minister. As of season 3, he has one son with his wife, Elizabeth Cromwell Lady Seymour. In Italy?” asked the king eagerly. This is one of the problems with historical revisionism when based on flimsy evidence and then taken up and repeated unchallenged. [80], Lady Ughtred was well connected so this was an excellent match.

In a letter to his wife on 9 December 1539, Gregory writes "I am, thanks be to God, in good health, trusting shortly to hear from you like news, as well of yourself as also my little boys, of whose increase and towardness be you assured I am not a little desirous to be advertised." Gregory Cromwell, his wife and their children faced an uncertain future. [62], Thomas Cromwell, influenced by the humanist view of preparation for the active life, took great pains with his son's education, although the boy's studies were not always conducted along humanist lines. "[143], On the second day of the jousts, Mr. Anthony Kingston and Richard Cromwell were made knights. 1 A miscalculation of the boy’s age and an inaccurate estimation of his birth year (1515/16) by J. S. Brewer, 2 subsequently accepted by James Gairdner (Dictionary of National …

However, it would be safe to say that, after her marriage, Jane did not share her father's religious beliefs.

Thomas Cromwell sought to ensure his son’s well-being and education in the aftermath of his bereavement by sending him to nuns to be cared for. 263, 267, 570). It only goes to show that when it comes to history, we shouldn’t believe everything we read. Since the letters therefore appear to leave things inconclusive, further research into possible portraits of Gregory (which surely exist given that his father was a major patron of Holbein) may be the best solution and so I shall see if I can research them further. [11][12], Gregory's family connections had provided him with wealth, property and privileges; however, it was through his own intelligence and ability, combined with the remarkable education and training provided by his father, that he was able to benefit from them, leaving his wife and family well provided for at his death.

The following morning, they were taken from Hampton Court, with their hands bound, and accompanied by 24 archers, to the Tower. Mr. Copland every morning gives each of them a laten, the which Nicholas doth bear away, as well Gregory's lesson as his own, and maketh the same Gregory perfect against his time of rendering.

195 –, Robert Hutchinson, Thomas Cromwell: The Rise and Fall of Henry VIII’s Most Notorious Minister, 2007, p. 132-133, B. W. Beckingsale, Thomas Cromwell: Tudor Minister, 1978, p. 18, R. B. Merriman, Life and Letters of Thomas Cromwell, 1902, vol. John Palsgrave, author of L’éclaircissement de la langue française/ Tutor to Mary Tudor, the King’s sister and Henry Fitzroy. Gregory’s two legitimate sisters died along with his mother of sweating sickness when Gregory was nine. Anne of Cleves arrived on Thursday 11 December. Their distaste is reflected in their depictions of the man and his son, Gregory. "[171], On 29 June, the act of attainder was passed in both houses of parliament and Thomas Cromwell's fate was sealed. Furthermore, the age of majority in the 16th century was 21,not 18, and if Gregory were born c 1520 he would still have been a minor when he was appointed both a JP and an MP.

I also note that Queen Catherine Howard was a second cousin of Elizabeth Seymour and to that extent she was a member of the family anyway, Sadly as you show by the discrepancy in ages the Ralph Sadler possibility goes straight out the window! Several contemporary sources report his death from the sweating sickness in July 1551. It was enacted, therefore, by the 1st of James II. Ellis, third series III 1846, pp.

The nuns were permitted to educate only the girls. Also please to keep my email address un-public! Anne Boleyn: The king’s passion, the people’s enemy.

In 1688, Mr Gregory King, whose skill in political arith- metic is so much extolled by ... ...of that to which they properly belonged. 4, 4916, 8 November 1528, Letters &Papers, vol. “You promised that I should have the governance of the child till he was 12 years old.

They certainly bear no resemblance to the arms of the family of the Barons Cromwell (of Tattershall Castle). The Queen's death was not only a personal tragedy for Elizabeth, but it was to have long term repercussions for the Cromwells, particularly for Thomas Cromwell that could never have been foreseen. XIII, p. 202, Henry Ellis, Original Letters Illustrative of English History, third series,1846, vol. Vivian, Lt.Col. The Visitation of the County of Devon: Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564 & 1620, Exeter, 1895, pp.718-20, pedigree of Strode of Newnham, p.251, pedigree of Courtenay. Do you have any better resolution images of the miniatures of the boy who might be Gregory – or know where they are held or anything about their provenance? There is however a possible picture of Elizabeth Seymour who went on to marry for a third time after Gregory’s death. In the case of boys, the learning of Latin grammar also involved religious material.

Gregory Cromwell (played by Tom Holland in Wolf Hall), was born to Thomas Cromwell, a successful London merchant and lawyer, and his wife Elizabeth Wykys, either during the closing weeks of 1519 or early 1520. His son amounted to nothing and died soon after his fathers sentenced death no more to be approved.

Bindoff, 1982 – Gregory Cromwell –, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol.
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[110] However, the rats of Lewes had presents of their own, and in May, plague had broken out in the town. Hamilton, vol. More than likely, this was his first time on board a ship and away from the English mainland.

Their extent was considerable. Gregory and Elizabeth took part in the funeral procession of Queen Jane Seymour, Richard Cromwell carried the banners. He is now studying the things most conducive to the reading of authors, and spends the rest of the day in forming letters." This is such fun as art historical detective work! He lived through the last turbulent years of Henry VIII's reign, saw his queens and courtiers come and go, he survived the execution of his father, witnessed epidemics of plague and sweating sickness take away his friends and relations and lived through much political, social and religious upheaval. Therefore, he was condemned without a trial and his sentence was later confirmed by an act of attainder. Moreover, Gregory Cromwell was not created Baron Cromwell of Oakham by letters patent until December 1540 and did not receive any royal grants before February 1541.
[73] It is evident that Cromwell's son was a capable scholar, who besides mastering Latin, French and accounting, had learned to play the lute and virginals and excelled in the outdoor pursuits of riding, hunting with the longbow and hawking. Journal of the House of Lords 1: 1509–1577, p. 149 29 June 1540. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 15, 940. Gregory's close friends, [27][28], After the deaths of his wife and daughters, Thomas Cromwell was devoted to his son, Gregory, and his sister Catherine's son, [33] Richard must have been fond of Gregory, leaving him "a great horse" in his will. Catherine Howard’s mother was Joyce Culpepper.

209–212 see Lady Berkeley's letter to Thomas Cromwell after the death of her husband, Thomas Berkeley, 6th Baron Berkeley. Marella.

Little Gregory is becoming great in letters. That the portrait could be Elizabeth Seymour, was first argued by Antonia Fraser. I, (new series XI), 1875, p. 95-97, Holinshed’s Chronicles of England, Scotland and Ireland, 1808, vol. Excuse me for asking, but are you also the author of the wikipedia article on Gregory? Elaborate feasts and suppers were provided there, which were attended by the King, the Queen and her ladies, all the court, and all other comers. I also see that although some of her letters to Thomas Cromwell can be dated, the letter from Margaret Vernon which mentions Gregory is apparently undated, and that she was Prioress of Little Marlow from at least 1521.
Following Henry's death, he was knighted during the reign of Edward VI. Elizabeth was the sister of a queen, and a lord protector, and two of her brothers were executed as traitors, but what else do we know about Elizabeth Seymour and how is she linked to the Cromwell family and a portrait once thought to be of Queen Catherine Howard? True for the Crown, which is unique, and indeed Edward VI was flexing his will at sixteen, with his Device for the Succession (Lady Jane Grey). Reproduction Date: Gregory Cromwell, 1st Baron Cromwell of Oakham, [5][6], Gregory's father Thomas Cromwell rose from obscurity to become the chief minister of Henry VIII, who attempted to modernize government at the expense of the privileges of the nobility and church.

The reade... ...£ 1:5:2, the lowest price at which it had ever been from 1595. Both the Howards and the Seymours appear to have had similar noses so I think little if nothing can turn on that. A successful merchant and lawyer, Thomas Cromwell was a self-made man of relatively humble beginnings whose intelligence and abilities enabled him to rise to become the most powerful man in England next to the king. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 14(2), 782: Cromwell's accounts note a payment of £12 14s. I, p. 145, 301, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol. [64][65] Gregory and his cousin, Christopher Wellyfed were permitted to indulge their love of hunting during breaks in their studies. The challengers entered the lists that day richly dressed, their horses trapped in white velvet, with knights and gentlemen riding ahead of them, dressed in white velvet and white sarcenet, and all their servants in white sarcenet doublets and hose, in the Burgundian fashion. [180] In this way it escaped forfeiture at the time of Thomas Cromwell's attainder and execution, and was held by his descendants.[203]. Thomas was Gregory’s friend and neighbour when he lived at nearby Lewes Priory and when he first came to live in Sussex, both Lord and Lady Dacre, as he says in a letter to his father, “welcomed him to the county and entertained him with presents.” I also see that Thomas named one of his sons Gregory and so Gregory Cromwell was presumably the godfather. Hough was Cromwell's agent in Chester.

The case against Thomas Cromwell was weak - it was well known that Cromwell favoured religious reform, though he had not proceeded any further with his program of reforms than the king would allow, and his every act had been authorised by the king.

[170] Moreover, Thomas Cromwell was granted the extraordinary 'privilege' of being told of the charges against him and who his accusers were. So the argument as to his date of birth based on the letters is it seems circular!

The challengers included Sir Anthony Kingston, and Richard Cromwell. I also see that my ancestor Thomas Drake (brother of Admiral Sir Francis) married an Elizabeth Gregory.

Gregory lost royal favor and a significant amount of property when his father was executed, but was later ennobled by King Henry as Baron of Oakham, made a member of Parliament, and managed to establish himself as a wealthy landowner. Elizabeth Seymour, Lady Cromwell, Portrait by Hans Holbein the Younger – once thought to be Catherine Howard. Since the portrait was always traditionally believed to be Catherine I think a much better case needs to be made out for identifying it as Elizabeth than the fact it once belonged to the Cromwell family. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 13(1), 1059.

She was around fifty years old at her death. "[197] It appears that Henry VIII no longer considered Thomas Cromwell to have been guilty of the charges against him, that he had been misled by his councillors and now regretted the loss of an able minister. As of season 3, he has one son with his wife, Elizabeth Cromwell Lady Seymour. In Italy?” asked the king eagerly. This is one of the problems with historical revisionism when based on flimsy evidence and then taken up and repeated unchallenged. [80], Lady Ughtred was well connected so this was an excellent match.

In a letter to his wife on 9 December 1539, Gregory writes "I am, thanks be to God, in good health, trusting shortly to hear from you like news, as well of yourself as also my little boys, of whose increase and towardness be you assured I am not a little desirous to be advertised." Gregory Cromwell, his wife and their children faced an uncertain future. [62], Thomas Cromwell, influenced by the humanist view of preparation for the active life, took great pains with his son's education, although the boy's studies were not always conducted along humanist lines. "[143], On the second day of the jousts, Mr. Anthony Kingston and Richard Cromwell were made knights. 1 A miscalculation of the boy’s age and an inaccurate estimation of his birth year (1515/16) by J. S. Brewer, 2 subsequently accepted by James Gairdner (Dictionary of National …

However, it would be safe to say that, after her marriage, Jane did not share her father's religious beliefs.

Thomas Cromwell sought to ensure his son’s well-being and education in the aftermath of his bereavement by sending him to nuns to be cared for. 263, 267, 570). It only goes to show that when it comes to history, we shouldn’t believe everything we read. Since the letters therefore appear to leave things inconclusive, further research into possible portraits of Gregory (which surely exist given that his father was a major patron of Holbein) may be the best solution and so I shall see if I can research them further. [11][12], Gregory's family connections had provided him with wealth, property and privileges; however, it was through his own intelligence and ability, combined with the remarkable education and training provided by his father, that he was able to benefit from them, leaving his wife and family well provided for at his death.

The following morning, they were taken from Hampton Court, with their hands bound, and accompanied by 24 archers, to the Tower. Mr. Copland every morning gives each of them a laten, the which Nicholas doth bear away, as well Gregory's lesson as his own, and maketh the same Gregory perfect against his time of rendering.

195 –, Robert Hutchinson, Thomas Cromwell: The Rise and Fall of Henry VIII’s Most Notorious Minister, 2007, p. 132-133, B. W. Beckingsale, Thomas Cromwell: Tudor Minister, 1978, p. 18, R. B. Merriman, Life and Letters of Thomas Cromwell, 1902, vol. John Palsgrave, author of L’éclaircissement de la langue française/ Tutor to Mary Tudor, the King’s sister and Henry Fitzroy. Gregory’s two legitimate sisters died along with his mother of sweating sickness when Gregory was nine. Anne of Cleves arrived on Thursday 11 December. Their distaste is reflected in their depictions of the man and his son, Gregory. "[171], On 29 June, the act of attainder was passed in both houses of parliament and Thomas Cromwell's fate was sealed. Furthermore, the age of majority in the 16th century was 21,not 18, and if Gregory were born c 1520 he would still have been a minor when he was appointed both a JP and an MP.

I also note that Queen Catherine Howard was a second cousin of Elizabeth Seymour and to that extent she was a member of the family anyway, Sadly as you show by the discrepancy in ages the Ralph Sadler possibility goes straight out the window! Several contemporary sources report his death from the sweating sickness in July 1551. It was enacted, therefore, by the 1st of James II. Ellis, third series III 1846, pp.

The nuns were permitted to educate only the girls. Also please to keep my email address un-public! Anne Boleyn: The king’s passion, the people’s enemy.

In 1688, Mr Gregory King, whose skill in political arith- metic is so much extolled by ... ...of that to which they properly belonged. 4, 4916, 8 November 1528, Letters &Papers, vol. “You promised that I should have the governance of the child till he was 12 years old.

They certainly bear no resemblance to the arms of the family of the Barons Cromwell (of Tattershall Castle). The Queen's death was not only a personal tragedy for Elizabeth, but it was to have long term repercussions for the Cromwells, particularly for Thomas Cromwell that could never have been foreseen. XIII, p. 202, Henry Ellis, Original Letters Illustrative of English History, third series,1846, vol. Vivian, Lt.Col. The Visitation of the County of Devon: Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564 & 1620, Exeter, 1895, pp.718-20, pedigree of Strode of Newnham, p.251, pedigree of Courtenay. Do you have any better resolution images of the miniatures of the boy who might be Gregory – or know where they are held or anything about their provenance? There is however a possible picture of Elizabeth Seymour who went on to marry for a third time after Gregory’s death. In the case of boys, the learning of Latin grammar also involved religious material.

Gregory Cromwell (played by Tom Holland in Wolf Hall), was born to Thomas Cromwell, a successful London merchant and lawyer, and his wife Elizabeth Wykys, either during the closing weeks of 1519 or early 1520. His son amounted to nothing and died soon after his fathers sentenced death no more to be approved.

Bindoff, 1982 – Gregory Cromwell –, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol.
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[110] However, the rats of Lewes had presents of their own, and in May, plague had broken out in the town. Hamilton, vol. More than likely, this was his first time on board a ship and away from the English mainland.

Their extent was considerable. Gregory and Elizabeth took part in the funeral procession of Queen Jane Seymour, Richard Cromwell carried the banners. He is now studying the things most conducive to the reading of authors, and spends the rest of the day in forming letters." This is such fun as art historical detective work! He lived through the last turbulent years of Henry VIII's reign, saw his queens and courtiers come and go, he survived the execution of his father, witnessed epidemics of plague and sweating sickness take away his friends and relations and lived through much political, social and religious upheaval. Therefore, he was condemned without a trial and his sentence was later confirmed by an act of attainder. Moreover, Gregory Cromwell was not created Baron Cromwell of Oakham by letters patent until December 1540 and did not receive any royal grants before February 1541.
[73] It is evident that Cromwell's son was a capable scholar, who besides mastering Latin, French and accounting, had learned to play the lute and virginals and excelled in the outdoor pursuits of riding, hunting with the longbow and hawking. Journal of the House of Lords 1: 1509–1577, p. 149 29 June 1540. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 15, 940. Gregory's close friends, [27][28], After the deaths of his wife and daughters, Thomas Cromwell was devoted to his son, Gregory, and his sister Catherine's son, [33] Richard must have been fond of Gregory, leaving him "a great horse" in his will. Catherine Howard’s mother was Joyce Culpepper.

209–212 see Lady Berkeley's letter to Thomas Cromwell after the death of her husband, Thomas Berkeley, 6th Baron Berkeley. Marella.

Little Gregory is becoming great in letters. That the portrait could be Elizabeth Seymour, was first argued by Antonia Fraser. I, (new series XI), 1875, p. 95-97, Holinshed’s Chronicles of England, Scotland and Ireland, 1808, vol. Excuse me for asking, but are you also the author of the wikipedia article on Gregory? Elaborate feasts and suppers were provided there, which were attended by the King, the Queen and her ladies, all the court, and all other comers. I also see that although some of her letters to Thomas Cromwell can be dated, the letter from Margaret Vernon which mentions Gregory is apparently undated, and that she was Prioress of Little Marlow from at least 1521.
Following Henry's death, he was knighted during the reign of Edward VI. Elizabeth was the sister of a queen, and a lord protector, and two of her brothers were executed as traitors, but what else do we know about Elizabeth Seymour and how is she linked to the Cromwell family and a portrait once thought to be of Queen Catherine Howard? True for the Crown, which is unique, and indeed Edward VI was flexing his will at sixteen, with his Device for the Succession (Lady Jane Grey). Reproduction Date: Gregory Cromwell, 1st Baron Cromwell of Oakham, [5][6], Gregory's father Thomas Cromwell rose from obscurity to become the chief minister of Henry VIII, who attempted to modernize government at the expense of the privileges of the nobility and church.

The reade... ...£ 1:5:2, the lowest price at which it had ever been from 1595. Both the Howards and the Seymours appear to have had similar noses so I think little if nothing can turn on that. A successful merchant and lawyer, Thomas Cromwell was a self-made man of relatively humble beginnings whose intelligence and abilities enabled him to rise to become the most powerful man in England next to the king. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 14(2), 782: Cromwell's accounts note a payment of £12 14s. I, p. 145, 301, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol. [64][65] Gregory and his cousin, Christopher Wellyfed were permitted to indulge their love of hunting during breaks in their studies. The challengers entered the lists that day richly dressed, their horses trapped in white velvet, with knights and gentlemen riding ahead of them, dressed in white velvet and white sarcenet, and all their servants in white sarcenet doublets and hose, in the Burgundian fashion. [180] In this way it escaped forfeiture at the time of Thomas Cromwell's attainder and execution, and was held by his descendants.[203]. Thomas was Gregory’s friend and neighbour when he lived at nearby Lewes Priory and when he first came to live in Sussex, both Lord and Lady Dacre, as he says in a letter to his father, “welcomed him to the county and entertained him with presents.” I also see that Thomas named one of his sons Gregory and so Gregory Cromwell was presumably the godfather. Hough was Cromwell's agent in Chester.

The case against Thomas Cromwell was weak - it was well known that Cromwell favoured religious reform, though he had not proceeded any further with his program of reforms than the king would allow, and his every act had been authorised by the king.

[170] Moreover, Thomas Cromwell was granted the extraordinary 'privilege' of being told of the charges against him and who his accusers were. So the argument as to his date of birth based on the letters is it seems circular!

The challengers included Sir Anthony Kingston, and Richard Cromwell. I also see that my ancestor Thomas Drake (brother of Admiral Sir Francis) married an Elizabeth Gregory.

Gregory lost royal favor and a significant amount of property when his father was executed, but was later ennobled by King Henry as Baron of Oakham, made a member of Parliament, and managed to establish himself as a wealthy landowner. Elizabeth Seymour, Lady Cromwell, Portrait by Hans Holbein the Younger – once thought to be Catherine Howard. Since the portrait was always traditionally believed to be Catherine I think a much better case needs to be made out for identifying it as Elizabeth than the fact it once belonged to the Cromwell family. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 13(1), 1059.

She was around fifty years old at her death. "[197] It appears that Henry VIII no longer considered Thomas Cromwell to have been guilty of the charges against him, that he had been misled by his councillors and now regretted the loss of an able minister. As of season 3, he has one son with his wife, Elizabeth Cromwell Lady Seymour. In Italy?” asked the king eagerly. This is one of the problems with historical revisionism when based on flimsy evidence and then taken up and repeated unchallenged. [80], Lady Ughtred was well connected so this was an excellent match.

In a letter to his wife on 9 December 1539, Gregory writes "I am, thanks be to God, in good health, trusting shortly to hear from you like news, as well of yourself as also my little boys, of whose increase and towardness be you assured I am not a little desirous to be advertised." Gregory Cromwell, his wife and their children faced an uncertain future. [62], Thomas Cromwell, influenced by the humanist view of preparation for the active life, took great pains with his son's education, although the boy's studies were not always conducted along humanist lines. "[143], On the second day of the jousts, Mr. Anthony Kingston and Richard Cromwell were made knights. 1 A miscalculation of the boy’s age and an inaccurate estimation of his birth year (1515/16) by J. S. Brewer, 2 subsequently accepted by James Gairdner (Dictionary of National …

However, it would be safe to say that, after her marriage, Jane did not share her father's religious beliefs.

Thomas Cromwell sought to ensure his son’s well-being and education in the aftermath of his bereavement by sending him to nuns to be cared for. 263, 267, 570). It only goes to show that when it comes to history, we shouldn’t believe everything we read. Since the letters therefore appear to leave things inconclusive, further research into possible portraits of Gregory (which surely exist given that his father was a major patron of Holbein) may be the best solution and so I shall see if I can research them further. [11][12], Gregory's family connections had provided him with wealth, property and privileges; however, it was through his own intelligence and ability, combined with the remarkable education and training provided by his father, that he was able to benefit from them, leaving his wife and family well provided for at his death.

The following morning, they were taken from Hampton Court, with their hands bound, and accompanied by 24 archers, to the Tower. Mr. Copland every morning gives each of them a laten, the which Nicholas doth bear away, as well Gregory's lesson as his own, and maketh the same Gregory perfect against his time of rendering.

195 –, Robert Hutchinson, Thomas Cromwell: The Rise and Fall of Henry VIII’s Most Notorious Minister, 2007, p. 132-133, B. W. Beckingsale, Thomas Cromwell: Tudor Minister, 1978, p. 18, R. B. Merriman, Life and Letters of Thomas Cromwell, 1902, vol. John Palsgrave, author of L’éclaircissement de la langue française/ Tutor to Mary Tudor, the King’s sister and Henry Fitzroy. Gregory’s two legitimate sisters died along with his mother of sweating sickness when Gregory was nine. Anne of Cleves arrived on Thursday 11 December. Their distaste is reflected in their depictions of the man and his son, Gregory. "[171], On 29 June, the act of attainder was passed in both houses of parliament and Thomas Cromwell's fate was sealed. Furthermore, the age of majority in the 16th century was 21,not 18, and if Gregory were born c 1520 he would still have been a minor when he was appointed both a JP and an MP.

I also note that Queen Catherine Howard was a second cousin of Elizabeth Seymour and to that extent she was a member of the family anyway, Sadly as you show by the discrepancy in ages the Ralph Sadler possibility goes straight out the window! Several contemporary sources report his death from the sweating sickness in July 1551. It was enacted, therefore, by the 1st of James II. Ellis, third series III 1846, pp.

The nuns were permitted to educate only the girls. Also please to keep my email address un-public! Anne Boleyn: The king’s passion, the people’s enemy.

In 1688, Mr Gregory King, whose skill in political arith- metic is so much extolled by ... ...of that to which they properly belonged. 4, 4916, 8 November 1528, Letters &Papers, vol. “You promised that I should have the governance of the child till he was 12 years old.

They certainly bear no resemblance to the arms of the family of the Barons Cromwell (of Tattershall Castle). The Queen's death was not only a personal tragedy for Elizabeth, but it was to have long term repercussions for the Cromwells, particularly for Thomas Cromwell that could never have been foreseen. XIII, p. 202, Henry Ellis, Original Letters Illustrative of English History, third series,1846, vol. Vivian, Lt.Col. The Visitation of the County of Devon: Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564 & 1620, Exeter, 1895, pp.718-20, pedigree of Strode of Newnham, p.251, pedigree of Courtenay. Do you have any better resolution images of the miniatures of the boy who might be Gregory – or know where they are held or anything about their provenance? There is however a possible picture of Elizabeth Seymour who went on to marry for a third time after Gregory’s death. In the case of boys, the learning of Latin grammar also involved religious material.

Gregory Cromwell (played by Tom Holland in Wolf Hall), was born to Thomas Cromwell, a successful London merchant and lawyer, and his wife Elizabeth Wykys, either during the closing weeks of 1519 or early 1520. His son amounted to nothing and died soon after his fathers sentenced death no more to be approved.

Bindoff, 1982 – Gregory Cromwell –, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol.
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"And I beseech you, good Mr. Pope, to be a mean unto his Highness, that my daughter Margaret may be present at my burial."

[110] However, the rats of Lewes had presents of their own, and in May, plague had broken out in the town. Hamilton, vol. More than likely, this was his first time on board a ship and away from the English mainland.

Their extent was considerable. Gregory and Elizabeth took part in the funeral procession of Queen Jane Seymour, Richard Cromwell carried the banners. He is now studying the things most conducive to the reading of authors, and spends the rest of the day in forming letters." This is such fun as art historical detective work! He lived through the last turbulent years of Henry VIII's reign, saw his queens and courtiers come and go, he survived the execution of his father, witnessed epidemics of plague and sweating sickness take away his friends and relations and lived through much political, social and religious upheaval. Therefore, he was condemned without a trial and his sentence was later confirmed by an act of attainder. Moreover, Gregory Cromwell was not created Baron Cromwell of Oakham by letters patent until December 1540 and did not receive any royal grants before February 1541.
[73] It is evident that Cromwell's son was a capable scholar, who besides mastering Latin, French and accounting, had learned to play the lute and virginals and excelled in the outdoor pursuits of riding, hunting with the longbow and hawking. Journal of the House of Lords 1: 1509–1577, p. 149 29 June 1540. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 15, 940. Gregory's close friends, [27][28], After the deaths of his wife and daughters, Thomas Cromwell was devoted to his son, Gregory, and his sister Catherine's son, [33] Richard must have been fond of Gregory, leaving him "a great horse" in his will. Catherine Howard’s mother was Joyce Culpepper.

209–212 see Lady Berkeley's letter to Thomas Cromwell after the death of her husband, Thomas Berkeley, 6th Baron Berkeley. Marella.

Little Gregory is becoming great in letters. That the portrait could be Elizabeth Seymour, was first argued by Antonia Fraser. I, (new series XI), 1875, p. 95-97, Holinshed’s Chronicles of England, Scotland and Ireland, 1808, vol. Excuse me for asking, but are you also the author of the wikipedia article on Gregory? Elaborate feasts and suppers were provided there, which were attended by the King, the Queen and her ladies, all the court, and all other comers. I also see that although some of her letters to Thomas Cromwell can be dated, the letter from Margaret Vernon which mentions Gregory is apparently undated, and that she was Prioress of Little Marlow from at least 1521.
Following Henry's death, he was knighted during the reign of Edward VI. Elizabeth was the sister of a queen, and a lord protector, and two of her brothers were executed as traitors, but what else do we know about Elizabeth Seymour and how is she linked to the Cromwell family and a portrait once thought to be of Queen Catherine Howard? True for the Crown, which is unique, and indeed Edward VI was flexing his will at sixteen, with his Device for the Succession (Lady Jane Grey). Reproduction Date: Gregory Cromwell, 1st Baron Cromwell of Oakham, [5][6], Gregory's father Thomas Cromwell rose from obscurity to become the chief minister of Henry VIII, who attempted to modernize government at the expense of the privileges of the nobility and church.

The reade... ...£ 1:5:2, the lowest price at which it had ever been from 1595. Both the Howards and the Seymours appear to have had similar noses so I think little if nothing can turn on that. A successful merchant and lawyer, Thomas Cromwell was a self-made man of relatively humble beginnings whose intelligence and abilities enabled him to rise to become the most powerful man in England next to the king. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 14(2), 782: Cromwell's accounts note a payment of £12 14s. I, p. 145, 301, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol. [64][65] Gregory and his cousin, Christopher Wellyfed were permitted to indulge their love of hunting during breaks in their studies. The challengers entered the lists that day richly dressed, their horses trapped in white velvet, with knights and gentlemen riding ahead of them, dressed in white velvet and white sarcenet, and all their servants in white sarcenet doublets and hose, in the Burgundian fashion. [180] In this way it escaped forfeiture at the time of Thomas Cromwell's attainder and execution, and was held by his descendants.[203]. Thomas was Gregory’s friend and neighbour when he lived at nearby Lewes Priory and when he first came to live in Sussex, both Lord and Lady Dacre, as he says in a letter to his father, “welcomed him to the county and entertained him with presents.” I also see that Thomas named one of his sons Gregory and so Gregory Cromwell was presumably the godfather. Hough was Cromwell's agent in Chester.

The case against Thomas Cromwell was weak - it was well known that Cromwell favoured religious reform, though he had not proceeded any further with his program of reforms than the king would allow, and his every act had been authorised by the king.

[170] Moreover, Thomas Cromwell was granted the extraordinary 'privilege' of being told of the charges against him and who his accusers were. So the argument as to his date of birth based on the letters is it seems circular!

The challengers included Sir Anthony Kingston, and Richard Cromwell. I also see that my ancestor Thomas Drake (brother of Admiral Sir Francis) married an Elizabeth Gregory.

Gregory lost royal favor and a significant amount of property when his father was executed, but was later ennobled by King Henry as Baron of Oakham, made a member of Parliament, and managed to establish himself as a wealthy landowner. Elizabeth Seymour, Lady Cromwell, Portrait by Hans Holbein the Younger – once thought to be Catherine Howard. Since the portrait was always traditionally believed to be Catherine I think a much better case needs to be made out for identifying it as Elizabeth than the fact it once belonged to the Cromwell family. Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, 13(1), 1059.

She was around fifty years old at her death. "[197] It appears that Henry VIII no longer considered Thomas Cromwell to have been guilty of the charges against him, that he had been misled by his councillors and now regretted the loss of an able minister. As of season 3, he has one son with his wife, Elizabeth Cromwell Lady Seymour. In Italy?” asked the king eagerly. This is one of the problems with historical revisionism when based on flimsy evidence and then taken up and repeated unchallenged. [80], Lady Ughtred was well connected so this was an excellent match.

In a letter to his wife on 9 December 1539, Gregory writes "I am, thanks be to God, in good health, trusting shortly to hear from you like news, as well of yourself as also my little boys, of whose increase and towardness be you assured I am not a little desirous to be advertised." Gregory Cromwell, his wife and their children faced an uncertain future. [62], Thomas Cromwell, influenced by the humanist view of preparation for the active life, took great pains with his son's education, although the boy's studies were not always conducted along humanist lines. "[143], On the second day of the jousts, Mr. Anthony Kingston and Richard Cromwell were made knights. 1 A miscalculation of the boy’s age and an inaccurate estimation of his birth year (1515/16) by J. S. Brewer, 2 subsequently accepted by James Gairdner (Dictionary of National …

However, it would be safe to say that, after her marriage, Jane did not share her father's religious beliefs.

Thomas Cromwell sought to ensure his son’s well-being and education in the aftermath of his bereavement by sending him to nuns to be cared for. 263, 267, 570). It only goes to show that when it comes to history, we shouldn’t believe everything we read. Since the letters therefore appear to leave things inconclusive, further research into possible portraits of Gregory (which surely exist given that his father was a major patron of Holbein) may be the best solution and so I shall see if I can research them further. [11][12], Gregory's family connections had provided him with wealth, property and privileges; however, it was through his own intelligence and ability, combined with the remarkable education and training provided by his father, that he was able to benefit from them, leaving his wife and family well provided for at his death.

The following morning, they were taken from Hampton Court, with their hands bound, and accompanied by 24 archers, to the Tower. Mr. Copland every morning gives each of them a laten, the which Nicholas doth bear away, as well Gregory's lesson as his own, and maketh the same Gregory perfect against his time of rendering.

195 –, Robert Hutchinson, Thomas Cromwell: The Rise and Fall of Henry VIII’s Most Notorious Minister, 2007, p. 132-133, B. W. Beckingsale, Thomas Cromwell: Tudor Minister, 1978, p. 18, R. B. Merriman, Life and Letters of Thomas Cromwell, 1902, vol. John Palsgrave, author of L’éclaircissement de la langue française/ Tutor to Mary Tudor, the King’s sister and Henry Fitzroy. Gregory’s two legitimate sisters died along with his mother of sweating sickness when Gregory was nine. Anne of Cleves arrived on Thursday 11 December. Their distaste is reflected in their depictions of the man and his son, Gregory. "[171], On 29 June, the act of attainder was passed in both houses of parliament and Thomas Cromwell's fate was sealed. Furthermore, the age of majority in the 16th century was 21,not 18, and if Gregory were born c 1520 he would still have been a minor when he was appointed both a JP and an MP.

I also note that Queen Catherine Howard was a second cousin of Elizabeth Seymour and to that extent she was a member of the family anyway, Sadly as you show by the discrepancy in ages the Ralph Sadler possibility goes straight out the window! Several contemporary sources report his death from the sweating sickness in July 1551. It was enacted, therefore, by the 1st of James II. Ellis, third series III 1846, pp.

The nuns were permitted to educate only the girls. Also please to keep my email address un-public! Anne Boleyn: The king’s passion, the people’s enemy.

In 1688, Mr Gregory King, whose skill in political arith- metic is so much extolled by ... ...of that to which they properly belonged. 4, 4916, 8 November 1528, Letters &Papers, vol. “You promised that I should have the governance of the child till he was 12 years old.

They certainly bear no resemblance to the arms of the family of the Barons Cromwell (of Tattershall Castle). The Queen's death was not only a personal tragedy for Elizabeth, but it was to have long term repercussions for the Cromwells, particularly for Thomas Cromwell that could never have been foreseen. XIII, p. 202, Henry Ellis, Original Letters Illustrative of English History, third series,1846, vol. Vivian, Lt.Col. The Visitation of the County of Devon: Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564 & 1620, Exeter, 1895, pp.718-20, pedigree of Strode of Newnham, p.251, pedigree of Courtenay. Do you have any better resolution images of the miniatures of the boy who might be Gregory – or know where they are held or anything about their provenance? There is however a possible picture of Elizabeth Seymour who went on to marry for a third time after Gregory’s death. In the case of boys, the learning of Latin grammar also involved religious material.

Gregory Cromwell (played by Tom Holland in Wolf Hall), was born to Thomas Cromwell, a successful London merchant and lawyer, and his wife Elizabeth Wykys, either during the closing weeks of 1519 or early 1520. His son amounted to nothing and died soon after his fathers sentenced death no more to be approved.

Bindoff, 1982 – Gregory Cromwell –, Dictionary of National Biography, London, 1888, vol.

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